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FAA Approved Car Seats Rules & Airline Approved Car Seats 2024

A question I often get asked by parents as an ex flight attendant, is about airline approved car-seats, and what to look out for to make sure they are FAA (Federal Airline Association in the USA) or CAA (Civil Airline Association – in the UK) or the equivalent airline authority approved.

This guide delves into official rules and regulations of using a car seat on a plane for the U.S.A, U.K and other airline requirements, e.g BA, Emirates, Etihad, Singapore as well as US Airlines.

You’ll also find a list of FAA approved car seats, with the airlines they fit, and alternatives. Don’t be caught out by other countries or airline rules, as they are very different from the FAA.

You can also see what approved car seats other parents have used on airlines in our Travel With Babies And Toddlers Facebook group.

One thing that stands out in my research is that Americans and U.S.A based airlines are MUCH more used to using a car seat on a plane and seeing one being used. It is not a common sight on EU/UK and other countries airlines, so flight attendants may not be used to seeing them used and may need time to clarify and check with their manuals. I never saw one used in 12 years of long haul flying, with my flying over 100 hours a month.

Britax Safe n sound Brava car seat forward facing on a flight.

New to Flying With A Car Seat? Or Flying Internationally?

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International airline associations safety rules do vary, so this effects the airlines rules on what car seats you can bring on-board your flight for your kids.

Just because your seat(s) may be FAA Approved Car Seats, does not mean all airlines will accept them. FAA rules govern US airlines only.

For example, a rear facing car seat approved in the USA may not be approved for use on a UK airline. Also many other non US airlines put an age limit on the use of car seats inflight. e.g Emirates will only allow car seats to be used for kids up to 36 months and Virgin Atlantic up to 2 years old.

I have also provided a FAA airline approved cars seat list of some which are available and answer many of your questions regarding traveling with carseats even if you are not flying with a USA airline. (I will have a post on UK airline approved car seats soon.


What You Need to Know

If you are looking for an airplane car seat for travel with an infant or toddler there are a few things to consider. I look in to each of these more in depth below. Things to consider when you are travelling with a car seat include:

  • Should I bring a carseat on the plane? 
  • Which car seats are approved for air travel?  (Not just with a FAA sticker or equivalent but does the airline approve it and allow it for the age of your child?
  • Will it fit on the plane seat I’m travelling on? Am I allowed it forward or rear facing? Airplane seats vary not just from economy to premium cabins but from economy to economy seat.
  • Which is the best car seat for traveling – is it easy for you to carry around and transport?
  • Is it approved for use in the country you are traveling to? Are you just using it for the flight or do you intend to use it in a car once you have arrived in a different country?
  • Alternative FAA approved devices.

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Which car seats are approved for air travel?  

(Not just with a FAA sticker or similar but does the airline approve it too?

Can I Use My Car Seat on the Plane?

This very much depends on a few factors. Below details the steps to take to check if you can use your car seat on an airplane.

Always Check

Even if a car seat has an airline approved sticker on it, ALWAYS check if there are any other requirements on your airlines website BEFORE you book.  

There is nothing worse than preparing and potentially buying (especially what in your eyes is the best car seat for airplane travel) to find out last minute that it doesn’t meet an airlines additional rules. The below sections explain this in more detail. Depending on the instructions, you may be able to use your travel  car seat base.

Airline Rules Vary 

Airline rules vary, so even if you have used your approved car seat with one airline you cannot assume you will automatically be allowed to use it on another airline. Aviation authorities rules vary from country to country.

Every airline follows the aviation authority to the country which the airline is registered to. E.g British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, EasyJet etc follow the CAA and EASA; American Airlines, JetBlue etc follow the FAA.

EASA allows airlines to enforce its own rules too. eg on Virgin Atlantic a child over 2 is not permitted to use a car seat in a seat, but on an American airline, a child under 18 must be allowed to use an approved safety seat.

Interestingly, the FAA insists that the airline must find an appropriate seat in the same class of service, if you have brought an FAA approved car seat onboard and purchased a seat, where the CAA say it is up to the airline if it is acceptable.

The USA has these clear guidelines with the FAA stating,

No operator may prohibit a child (an individual who has not reached his or her 18th birthday) from using an approved CRS when a seat is purchased for the child, the child is accompanied by a parent or guardian and the child is within the weight limits for the CRS.

If an approved CRS, for which a ticket has been purchased, does not fit in a particular seat on the aircraft, it is the responsibility of the aircraft operator to accommodate the CRS in another seat in the same class of service.

The following are examples of design variations where accommodation is required.” Read more official information from the FAA here.

Do be aware of this additional policy below which highlights some conditions.

“An operator may have policies based on safe operating practices that establish certain seat locations for a passenger who uses a Child Restraint System (CRS) on a specific aircraft.

Even if a certain seat in another location in the same class of service can accommodate an approved CRS, an operator does not have to permit the CRS in that location if the operator’s policies disallow the CRS in that seat.

Prohibiting the use of a CRS (if a ticket has been purchased) when there are seats on the aircraft, in the same class of service where the CRS could be used safely is not consistent with the requirements stated in parts 121, 125 and 135. Read more here

What does this all mean in plain English?

  • However, if the airline has a policy about using certain seats ( i.e seats which could block an exit like an aisle, or that have an airbag installed in the seatbelt, then the airline DOES NOT have to permit your car seat, CRD or CRS even if it would fit in that particular seat.
  • Stopping the use of a car seat/CRD when there are other seats where it could be used safely, is not allowed.

Good Tips to Follow to ensure your car seat will fit on a plane seat.

The FAA advises parents to (current as of March 2024) 

  • Make sure your CRS or child restraint device is approved for use on airplanes.
  • Measure the width of your (Child Restraint System) CRS. It should fit in most airplane seats if it is no wider than 16 inches.
  • (Note by me to add, finding a car seat that measures 16″ in width is incredibly hard. I’ve searched worldwide and only found one that is close to that at 16.5 ” which is is the U.S.A Baby Trend Flex Loc. To solve this issue, it is worth measuring how wide your car seat is where the aircraft arm rest would be, (a few inches up from the bottom) as this will increase the chances of your car seat fitting.
  • Ask your airline for a discounted fare. Buying a ticket for your child is the only way to guarantee that you will be able to use a Child Restraint System (CRS)
  • Reserve adjoining seats. A CRS must not block the escape path in an emergency. Many airlines have policies that require a CRS to be placed in a window seat. Do not place a CRS in an exit row.
  • If you do not buy a ticket for your child, ask if your airline will allow you to use an empty seat. If your airline’s policy allows this, avoid the busiest days and times to increase the likelihood of finding an empty seat next to you.
  • Arrange for your airline to help you if you need help making a connecting flight. Carrying a CRS, a child, and luggage through a busy airport can be challenging.
  • Always use a CRS when driving to and from the airport.
  • Wear your seat belt at all times.
  • A CRS must be installed in a forward-facing aircraft seat, in accordance with manufacturer’s instructions. This includes placing the CRS in the appropriate forward or aft-facing direction as indicated on the label for the size of the child.

The CAA state, (UK airlines)

“Forwards facing child restraint devices may be installed on both forward and rearward-facing passenger seats but only when fitted in the same direction as the passenger seat on which it is positioned. Rearward-facing child restraint devices can only be fitted to forward-facing passenger seats. 

Child restraint devices can only be fitted on a suitable aircraft seat using the type of seat belt/harness for which they were designed.

For example, a child restraint device that needs to be secured by a car type seat belt which includes a shoulder harness, cannot be installed on an aircraft seat that is fitted with a lap belt only.

The permitted use of restraint devices can differ between airlines, so it is important to contact your airline in advance of your booking or flight to ensure that the device that you may wish to use is acceptable.”

This 2021 guide will help you sift through the rules, provide you with a range of airline FAA approved car seats & answer many of your questions regarding traveling with carseats.
FAA approved car seats

What are the airline car seat policies? Will my car seat fit on the airplane seat I’m travelling on?

Most airlines stipulate which airline seats car seats can be used on. Usually, this is a window seat, so the path to the aisle is not blocked.

Car seats will not be allowed on emergency exit rows either. Some airlines will not allow car seats in premium cabins due to the seat layout. See above for details.

Clearly, there are many variations and rules with each airline. So ALWAYS check on your airlines website first. Below are a few examples. As you can see the policies vary greatly.  

  • American Airlines – Allows certain forward and rear facing car seats. But no device that positions the infant on the lap or chest of an adult. labels must be similar to, “This child restraint system conforms to all Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards” and “this restraint is certified for use in motor vehicles and aircrafts” or “this restraint is certified for use in motor vehicles and aircraft.” or a label which gives approval of a foreign government or a label showing that the seat was manufactured under the standards of the United Nations.
  • British AirwaysThe harness must secure the lap, torso and crotch, but does not have to be 5 individual straps. Non-approved car seats may only be used during the cruise when the seatbelt sign is off. At other times, the car seat must be stowed in an overhead locker.
Virgin Atlantic CRD seat
The Cathay Pacific CRD is similar to the old discontinued Virgin Atlantic CRD seat
  • Cathay Pacific –  Permit forward-facing and rear- facing car seats. Rear-facing car safety seats are also permitted if the use of such seat will not cause any impact on other passengers’ comfort.
    • Cathay also provides a free infant seat known as a child restraint seat for infants over 6 months old up until 3 years old, which must be ordered 24 hours in advance. This is especially convenient, as on some flights, Cathay Pacific cannot allow the use of car seats due to safety regulations on certain aircraft types.
  • Delta – Allows certain approved car seats and the CARES harness only.
  • Easyjet -Infants sitting in their own seat will need to use a car seat for take-off and landing, and any time when asked by the crew.  Only forward facing seats are allowed on board and the crew must be able to secure it safely to the aircraft seat. 
  • Emirates Airline. Have some quite unique, and I think a little confusing rules.
    • A rear facing car seat is restricted to infants whose age falls between 7 days and 6 months old.
    • Infants weighing under 10kg; can travel in either a forward facing or rear facing car seat, however if your infant weighs more than 10kg, their car seat must be forward facing.
    • The car seat must face the appropriate direction, and it must be secured using the lap seat belt.
    • Children aged between 6 months and 36 months must use forward facing type only.
  • JetStar– Will allow Australian made car seats, US and EU and others subject to conditions. Occasionally, they will allow rear facing seats depending on if it impedes on fellow passengers space and stops them reclining fully
    • They can approve your rear-facing car seat if a family member or friend sits in the seat in front and is happy for their seat to remain upright for the flight.
    • If your rear-facing seat is Australian designed the top restraint points are usually too far for the straps to reach.
    • If your child weighs more than 18 kg they can’t fly in an Australian-designed car seat. You need to purchase them an allocated seat. Please note Jetstar Asia cannot accept Australian-designed car seats on board the aircraft.
  • Qatar Airlines– Qatar provide their own restraint device which must be requested at least 48 hours in advance. It like the Virgin one above. You must purchase a seat at the child fare though.
    • The child restraint device (CRD) are designed to safely and comfortably seat infant and children weighing from 20 – 40 pounds (9.05 kg to 18.10 kg) or 40 inches (101.6 cms.) height.
    • Car seats are allowed for infants and children within the age group from 6 months to 36 months.
  • Ryan Air – Car seats must be forward facing and fit in the 42.5 cm (16.8 inches) space between the armrests of an aircraft seat.
  • Singapore Airlines – Approved car-type child seats may be used for a child under 3 years but not less than 6 months of age.
    • Forward and Aft facing are approved. 
    • An aft-facing child safety seat that doesn’t have a belt path must be used with a detachable base.
    • However, these child seats that require detachable bases may not fit properly in the passenger seat. 
    • An aft-facing child safety seat that has a belt path, and is properly labelled, doesn’t need a detachable base. It must also be approved by a foreign airworthiness authority /government standards.
  • Virgin Australia – Do NOT accept some car seats on their planes. Car seats that comply with Australian design standard AS/NZS 1754 which do not bear the approved label for fitment in an aircraft are currently unsuitable for carriage on Virgin Australia aircraft, as they require a top tether in addition to the fastened lap belt to secure the three-point attachment. 
    • They do accept forward and some rear facing seats which must be permanently and legibly marked AS/NZS 1754 and bear the label ‘This child restraint system meets the standard for use in aircraft as recommended by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority of Australia and the Civil Aviation Authority of New Zealand’.
    • Car seats that comply with Australian design standard AS/NZS 1754 and which bear the approved label for fitment in an aircraft (see below) can be installed on Virgin Australia aircraft with only the use of the aircraft seat belt.
  • Virgin AtlanticCar seats must not require the use of a three-point harness to secure it to the aircraft seat.
    • Children aged 2 and over are not permitted to use a car seat onboard) and it should fit  43cm x 43cm (17.ins x 17ins) seat

How to Find the Best Car Seat for Travel

When you are choosing the best travel car seat for your little one, there are several main points to consider.  

1. Does it have an FAA Approved Car Seats Sticker – FAA approved infant car seats, and FAA approved toddler car seats MUST have a sticker affixed to them that reads “This restraint is certified for use in motor vehicles and aircraft”. Ground staff and a flight attendant may check for this when you are boarding.

Other countries in the EU, Australia and Canada will have stickers similar to below. The EU sticker does not specifically say airline approved but will state ECE R44-04 which mean it is approved under United Nations regulations.

Check newer R129 models as the instruction booklet will clearly say whether it is airline approved or not. It’s always a good idea to bring the instruction booklet with you to present to airline staff if required.

If you are unsure then check out the EASA airline authority link here which states,”the proposed examples for acceptable child restraint devices include car seats, and item 2 of AMC1 CAT.IDE.A.205 lists the standards with which the CRD should comply.

This includes the UN standard ECE R 44, -03 or later series – this is commonly indicated on the car seat’s label”      

FAA approved car seats labels
Airline approved car-seat label examples

2. Width – When it comes to finding the best carseat for airplane use, obviously, the narrower the better.. Many airline websites do provide the seat width for car seats in the Family Travel or Travelling With Children section.

Note the width of the bottom of the car seat to fit on your airline seat. However, rarely, some airlines may insist that the armrest can still be placed down for taxi, takeoff and landing, meaning you need the car seat to also be narrow at the middle too.

3. Weight – The weight of a travel carseat is very important as you will need to carry it to and from the airplane, especially with your cabin baggage and child.

Traveling with a car seat can mean going up and and down steps, transitting on a bus or terminal train and more, if there is no direct airbridge available. The best carseat for airplane travel should be ideally under 10 lbs. 

4. Age & weight range – Most (at least in the U.S.A) capsule or bucket style infant car seats are suitable for use on an airplane (subject to the airline approved label located on the seat.), so it is highly likely you will be well within both the age and weight range when flying with an infant.

However, finding the best airline approved car seats for older toddlers and kids over 2 can be a bit tricker, as it is very much airline dependant whether they are allowed to be used onboard.  

When it comes to using a car seat, the weight and height of your child are the most important factors but the age – range does give you a good indicator for which will be the best car seats for airplanes

THE BEST CAR SEATS FOR AIRPLANES (FAA approved with NHTSA Ratings) Comparison Chart

NameImageWidth of seat &
weight
Forward/
Rear Facing
& Weight suitable
for
NHTSA ratings
Amazon – Baby Trend Flex Loc Baby Trend Flex Loc car seat FAA approved16.5″
(The narrowest
car seat option)
18.7lbs
Rear Facing
5 to 30lbs
NHTSA – Ease of
use not tested.
Amazon -Britax Emblem
Walmart-
Britax Emblem
britax-emblem-faa-approved-car-seat18.25
‎19.5 lbs
Rear and Forward
Rear-Facing 5-40lbs
Forward-Facing 20-65 lbs
NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating
★★★★☆
Britax Grow With You+ on AmazonBritax Grow With You+ car seat FAA approved23″
27lbs
(the heaviest
car seat option)
Forward Facing
Min child weight
‎25lbs/
Max child weight
‎65lbs
NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating
★★★★☆
Walmart – Chicco Keyfit30
or
Amazon
Chicco Keyfit30 car seat for infants16.6lbs
17″ wide 
(base 15″ wide)
Rear Facing Only
4-30 lbs and
up to 30” in height.
NHTSA Link
&
Overall
NHTSA rating

★★★★☆
Walmart- Cosco Scenera NextCosco Scenera Next FAA approved car seatThe Lightest
Car Seat option

7.1 lbs
17.63″ wide
(23″ wide with detachable
cup holder)
Airlines that Fit
According to Our
Readers:
Southwest, Spirit, United, Delta (- although seat won’t recline in front if RF)
Rear-facing
& Forward
5-40 lbs Rear
22-40lbs Forward
NHTSA Link &
Overall
NHTSA rating

★★★☆☆
Amazon – Doona Doona FAA approved car seat17.5″
16.5 lbs
Rear facing Only
4 to 35 lbs
NHTSA ease of
use
not tested
Walmart- Evenflo Sonus 65
Evenflo on Amazon
Evenflo Sonus 65 FAA car seat19.12″
11.28lbs
Rear and
Forward Facing
Rear 5-40lbs
Forward 22-65 lbs
NHTSA ease of
use
not tested
Walmart- evenflo Tribute LX Convertible Car Seat

or Amazon
Evenflo Tribute FAA approved car seat17″
9.29lbs
Rear &
forward facing
Rear from 5-40 lbs &
Forward
from 22-40 lbs.
NHTSA ease of
use
not tested
Walmart- Graco snuglocGraco Snugride 35 car seat18.6″
7.2lbs (The second Lightest
car seat option)
Rear Facing Only
4-35 lbs
NHTSA ease of
use
not tested
Walmart- Maxi Cosi Romi
 21.25″
7.8lbs (One of the lightest
car seat options)
Rear 5 to 40lbs
Forward facing 22 to 40lbs
NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating



★★★☆☆
Amazon – Peg Perago Viaggio PrimoPeg Perago Viaggio Primo car seat17″ wide at its
widest point
(where the handles
connect to the sides of the seat
9.5 lbs
Rear Facing Only
4 to 35 lbs and
up to 32” tall
NHTSA ease of
use
not tested
Walmart-Safety 1st 65
or Amazon
Safety 1st 65 car seat18.5″
14lbs
Rear &
Forward Facing
Rear 5-40lbs
(19″ – 40″)
Forward 22-65lbs and 34″-52″
NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating

★★★☆☆ rear
★★★★☆ forward
Amazon – Uppa Mesauppa baby mesa car seat17″ 10lbs Rear Facing only
4–35 lbs and up to 32” in height
NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating

★★★★★
Walmart- AMsafe CARES harnessCar seats airplane, child restraint devices CARES harness back22 and 44 pounds.Forward Facing only FAA Approved

Airline Seat Widths Table. Will your car seat fit the airplane seat?

This table shows seat measurements for several major airlines. I’ve found the top of car seat is wider but the base does fit many airplane seats, even the smallest seats like Southwest. Be mindful that some airlines will be stricter than others and insist the airplane armrest must be down for taxi, take off and landing.

AirlineAirlines Seat Measurements in economy Notes
Alaska AirwaysMinimum 16.5″ / Max 17.3″ on most aircraft Width varies due to many aircraft types see Alaska Air here for policies
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
With arm rests up, most fit
American AirlinesMin 16.5″/Max 18.4″Safety seats are not allowed in First or Business on select planes due to the seat angles. Width varies due to many different aircraft types. See here for all American Airlines seats widths.
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Cosco Scenera and other FAA approved.
British AirwaysMinimum 17″ to 18″/43cm to 45cmIf the car seat does not meet the safety requirements, it can still be used, but your infant (under 24 months) must sit on your lap using an extension seat belt during taxi, take off, landing and turbulence.
Travelling in economy (World Traveller) and premium economy (World Traveller Plus)
When using your child’s car seat on board the aircraft, you should choose the following seat positions for you and your child for safety reasons, if they are available:
All aircraft – In a window seat, with you next to them.
Larger aircraft – In a centre seat (not on the aisle), with you next to them.
The child in the car seat must face the same direction as the aircraft seat to which it is secured.
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Graco Extend to Fit, Cosco Scenera,
DeltaFrom 16.3 inchesSee your specific aircraft here on Delta with exact seat measurements.
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Cosco Scenera (person in front could not recline)
EmiratesMin 17″/Max 17.5″-A rear facing car seat is restricted to infants whose age falls between 7 days and 6 months old.
-If rear facing, it must be installed in a bulk head seat.
-If a bulk head seat is not available, then it must be installed in a forward facing direction.
-Infants from 0 to 6 months and weighing under 10kg can travel in either a forward facing or rear facing car seat. However, if your infant weighs more than 10kg, their car seat must be forward facing.
Children aged between 6 months and 36 months must use forward facing type only.
Can only use up until 36 months old.
Slightly confusing with a lot depending on age and weight!
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Cosco Scenera, Britax Emblem, Chicco keyfit
Etihad17.5″Children up to 36 months may use an approved car seat. Car seats must be forward or rear facing. However, Rearward facing seats are restricted to infants from 0 to six months weighing less than 10kg and are only allowed in First or Business cabins. Australian Car-Seat regulations
USA Standards FMVSS213
Canadian Standard CMVSS 213
European Standards ECE-44
German Standards (TÜV Doc.TÜV/958-01/2001) are all approved and accepted. 
SingaporeMin 16.3/Max 18″Car seats can be used for under 3s only. Child car seats must be forward- or aft-facing and secured to the passenger seat with the aircraft safety belt by a lap belt or two-point harness. Width varies due to many aircraft types see Singapore Airlines for seat width on aircraft type.
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Southwest17″ – 17.8″The CRS must have a stamp or decal or some other mark that indicates foreign government approval. Seats manufactured under the standards of the UN must have a label with a circle surrounding the letter E, followed by a number assigned to the country that has granted approval
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Cosco Scenera Next, Chicco KeyFit30, Graco Contender 65
Qatar AirwaysMin 17.5/ Max 18.5Car seat on board Qatar Airways aircraft will be allowed to be used for infants and children who are in the age group from 6 months to 36 Months only.
GOOD TO KNOW: Qatar provide a CRD which looks similar to a car seat which can be booked 48 hours in advance. CRD may be used for the carriage and restraint of children over 2 years of age who occupy a normal passenger seat.  CRD is designed to safely and comfortably seat children weighing from 20 – 40 pounds (9.05 KG to 18.10 KG) or 40 inches (101.6 CMs.) height. Request for CRD has to be made minimum 48 hours prior to the flight
Spirit Varies from 17- 18.5″Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Cosco Scenara Next , Cosco Finale 2-1 from Walmart (- fwd facing, GracoSlimfitLX rearfacing, Graco Extend, Cosco MightFit 65 Dx, EvenFlo tribute
UnitedVaries from 16.3″ – 17.3″ (41.4 cm – 43.9 cm) to 17.6Children in car seats should sit in a window seat with the car seat secured to the seat itself. See United Seat width here
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Graco Contender Slim
Cosco Scenera Next
Cosco Finale
Virgin Atlantic17-17.9 inchesChildren aged 2 and over are not permitted to use an Infant car seat onboard) read more here.
Car Seats that Fit According to Our Readers:
Cosco Scenera Next
Westjet
note Contender Car seat base is 12″ so will fit all plane seats.

The Best Travel Car Seats Reviews 2024

Below is a more detailed look at the best travel car seats which are FAA approved.

FAA Approved Car Seats & Airline Approved Car Seats 2024

Baby Trend EZ Flex Loc Infant Car Seat

The Baby Trend Flex Loc is an incredibly narrow infant rear facing car seat,  at only 16.5″ wide and with a competitive price point. 

This Safety Seat may be used without the Base in an airplane in the same manner as it is used in a car. It must be used in only a forward facing airplane seat.

The Baby Trend Flex Loc doesn’t support a great weight range, (5 to 30lbs) and is not the lightest to carry at 18.7lbs but it is very compact for travel. People have that the straps can get twisted.

  • Product weight 18.7lbs
  • Can accommodate infants from 5-30 pounds (2.2 and 13.6kg) and up to 30″ (76.2cm).
  • 16.5″ wide
  • (The narrowest car seat option)
  • NHTSA – Ease of use not tested.

You can get this on Amazon


britax-emblem-faa-approved-car-seat

Britax Emblem 3-Stage Convertible Car Seat

The Britax Emblem is slightly lighter (19.5lbs) and narrower than the Pinnacle (18.5″) and can also be used via LATCH or the belt system both rear and forward facing. It is suitable for a rear facing child weighing 5-40lbs and forward facing from 20lbs to 40lbs.

  • Product dimensions 21 x 18.5W x 26 “
  • 3-position recline
  • Product weight 19.5lbs
  • Forward and rear facing
  • NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating ★★★★☆

You can get this on Amazon or Walmart


Britax Grow With You+

Britax Grow with You

The Britax Grow With You+ is suitable for airline use when it is harness mode (not as a booster). In harness mode it can hold a child weighing between 25-120 lbs.

It is FAA approved in forward facing harness mode only.

“This restraint is certified for use in motor vehicles and aircraft when used in harness mode. This restraint is not certified for use in aircraft when used in booster mode because belt-positioning boosters require lap shoulder belts not available in aircraft.”

Although it is suitable for up to slightly older toddlers, the downside is the car seat weight. At 26.5 lbs it is pretty heavy to lug around and it is not the slimmest car seat either but it is a reliable and trusted brand.

  • Maximum weight of child 25-120lbs
  • Forward-facing Harnessed Weight 25-65 lbs
  • Forward-facing Harnessed Height 34″ – 49″
  • Product Dimensions 21″ x 23″ x 25″
  • Product weight 26.5lbs
  • FAA approved in forward facing harness mode only.
  • (the heaviest car seat option)
  • NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating ★★★★☆

You can get this on Amazon


Chicco KeyFit 30 Infant Car Seat

Chicco KeyFit 30 Infant Car Seat

The Chicco keyFit 30 is consistently recommended for airline use and is ideal if you are looking for a lightweight car seat for travel.

It is a narrow infant car seat at 17″ wide (with the base being 15″ wide), but it is not quite as slim as the Baby Trend Flex Loc Infant Car Seat (16.5″) or the UppaBaby Mesa option (15.5″ wide!).

It is installed on an aircraft without the base and is fitted the same way it is installed in a vehicle with a lap belt. It is one of the lightest car seats at 9.5lbs.

  • Suitable for infants (rear-facing only) from 4-30 lbs and up to 30” in height.
  • Product Weight: Carrier 9.5 lbs / Base 7 lbs
  • Product dmensions –  27.5″ x 17″W x 24″.
  • LATCH system for use in vehicles.
  • Fits 3 in a row in most cars.
  • FAA certified airplane infant seat.
  • Can become a great travel car seat stroller system when combined with the Chicco Caddy Stroller Frame, the or the Go-Go Babyz Deluxe infant car seat transporter.
  • If you like the look of the Chicco KeyFit 30, it might be worth looking at the Chicco Fit2 also. It is slightly heavier (11lbs without the base) but offers a bit more flexibility for having your toddler rear facing.
  • NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating ★★★★☆

You can get this on Amazon or Walmart


Cosco Scenera Next

Cosco Scenera Next

This hugely popular Cosco Scenera Next travel car seat is one of the best portable car seat toddler options due to its flexibility, price, narrowness and lightweight features. The fabric is lightweight though so it is not very padded.

The main complaint about this car seat is the comfort, with the buckle awkwardly positioned, which digs into kids backs on a flight. It is also not the best in safety tests.
It is more affordable than several of the other options, so you could buy it purely as a travel car seat or as a spare. It is one of the best lightweight car seats for travel at only 7.1lbs.Features:

  • Dimensions – 17.63 x 15.75 x 30.25 Inches (23″ wide with detachable cup holder)
  • Suitable from 5-40 lbs (19-40″) rear-facing and 22-40 lbs (29-43″) forward-facing.
  • Weighs only 9.92lbs making it a great light car seat for travel.
  • LATCH equipped.
  • Fits 3 in a row in most cars.
  • The Lightest Car Seat option
  • NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating ★★★☆☆

You can get this on Walmart


Doona FAA approved car seat

Doona

The Doona is the only car seat that I know of that coverts to a stroller too, and yes it is airline approved! As it is a combination of both a stroller and car seat, it doesn’t have as many features such as a storage bag and it will only last until your child passes the 35lb or 32″ mark (approximately 1 year old).

It has a 5 point harness and is only suitable as a rearward facing car seat. On larger aircraft you could potentially wheel it down the aisle directly to your seat as it is 17.5″ wide.

As with any stroller, car seat or other such device, medical professionals agree that a baby should not be restrained for long periods of time.

Features:

  • Dimensions – 23″ H x 17″ W x 22″ D. (23″ wide with detachable cup holder)
  • Suitable from 5-40 lbs (19-40″) rear-facing and 22-40 lbs (29-43″) forward-facing.
  • Weighs only 7.1lbs making it a great light car seat for travel.
  • LATCH equipped.
  • Fits 3 in a row in most cars.
  • NHTSA ease of use not tested

You can buy the Doona on Amazon.


Evenflo Sonus 65 FAA car seat

Evenflo Sonus 65

The Evenflo Sonus 65 is also certified for use In Aircraft: When used with the internal 5-point harness this restraint meets FAA Inversion requirements for airplane use. If you are looking for travel car seats for toddlers, you’ll be pleased to hear this one is convertible and can be used both forward and rear facing.

For rear facing it can go up to 40lbs and for froward facing up to 65lbs.  It is fairly light for a portable toddler car seat when forward facing.

Features

  • Dimensions: 29.0 x 19.0w x 19.0
  • Product Weight: 11.28 lbs.
  • NHTSA ease of use not tested

REAR-FACING

  • Weight: 5-40 lbs (2.3-18 kg)
  • Height: 19-40 in. (48-102 cm)

FORWARD-FACING

  • Weight: 22-65 lbs (10-29.4 kg)
  • Height: 28-50 in. (71-127 cm)
  • Age: At least 2 years old

You can buy the Evenflo on Amazon or Walmart


Evenflo Tribute FAA approved car seat

EvenFlo Tribute

The Evenflo Tribute convertible car seat helps protect rear facing infants from 5-40 lbs and forward facing toddlers from 22-40 lbs. The removable cup holder and seat covers make it practical for cleaning. When used with the internal 5-point harness this restraint meets FAA Inversion requirements for airplane use. There are 4 shoulder strap positions.

However, the padding is thinner so to stop the buckle from irritating baby, I recommend asking for a seatbelt extender from the flight attendants so that the buckle won’t sit directly behind the middle of the car seat. It is one of the best travel car seats for toddler aged children.

Features:

  • Suitable from 5 – 40 lbs (19-37″) rear-facing and 22-40 lbs (28- 40″) forward-facing.
  • Dimensions – 25″H x 17″ W x 19″ D ( Info direct from customer services)
  • Fits 3 across in the back seat of most vehicles.
  • 4 shoulder strap positions
  • Product Weight: 9.29lbs
  • NHTSA ease of use not tested

Available to buy on Amazon or Walmart


Graco Snugride 35 car seat

Graco Snugride Snuglock 35

The Graco Snugride Infant Lite a rear-facing i-Size/LATCH-approved baby car seat that is suitable from birth up to when your child is 87cm/32″ tall, which is when they’re around 18 months old. It is suitable for babies weighing: 4-35lb and is travel system compatible. The belt guides are quite narrow and hard to find, which makes it harder to fit the belt through, so there’s an increased risk of doing it wrong if you are using it without the base, like on an airplane.

Features:

  • Rear-Facing Only. Head must be at least 1″ below top of car seat
  • Suitable from 4 – 35 lbs (up to 32″ in height)
  • Dimensions: 25″ H x 17.5″ W x 30.6″ D.
  • Product weight: 7.5 lbs without base making it great choice for a baby travel car seat. It is 14.17lb with the base.
  • LATCH-equipped/ISOfix 
  • Compatible with Graco strollers.
  • Snuglock base is not FAA approved only the carrier portion.
  • (The second Lightest car seat option)
  • NHTSA ease of use not tested

You can purchase from Walmart or Amazon.


Peg Perago Viaggio Primo car seat

Peg Perago Viaggio Primo

The Peg Perago Viaggio Primo infant rear facing car seat measures a slim 17″ wide at its widest point (where the handles connect to the sides of the seat), and the base is only about 14.5″ wide. The base cannot be used for fitting onto an airplane seat. Made in Italy with stylish lines and soft padding, it does come at the higher end of the price bracket but is one of the narrowest lightest car seats on the market.

Features

  • Product dimensions: 25.9″ x 17.0″ x 23.9″
  • Rear facing infant car seat only
  • For babies 4 to 35 lbs and up to 32” tall
  • Includes base with “Right Tight System”
  • Travel System Compatible
  • Product weight 9.5 lbs /base weight 7.4lbs
  • NHTSA ease of use not tested

Safety 1st 65 car seat

Safety 1st Guide 65

At 18.5″ wide, the Safety First 65 car seat is ideal for a smaller car or if you need more room to fit three seats across the back. As it is narrow, it is ideal for aircraft seats. This seat is one of the best best toddler car seats for travel as it is convertible from rear facing (5-40lbs) to forward facing (22-65lbs) or up to a height of 52″ and is FAA approved.

It is a fairly light car seat at 14lbs and comes at a reasonable price point,  but there are lighter ones available on the market. Being narrow means your child may not be fit in it for long. Some people have commented it can be tricky to install. A benefit some of our readers like is that it has a higher harness so your child can rear face longer in it. 

Features

  • Rear-facing 5-40 pounds and Forward-facing 22-65 pounds
  • Fits 3 across in the back seat of most vehicles
  • Weighs only 14 lbs
  • 5-point harness with up-front adjustment
  • Adjustable head rest
  • Removable body pillows
  • Removable cup holder
  • LATCH equipped for use in the car
  • FAA certified for travel on airplanes
  • DImensions – 27.25 in x 18.50W in x 20.25″ as per the Safety First website
  • One of the best travel convertible car seat options for older children if you are on a budget.
  • NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating:
    ★★★☆☆ rear
    ★★★★☆ forward

Available to buy on Amazon or Walmart


uppa baby mesa car seat

MESA Infant Car Seat – HIGHEST NHTSA RATING

The Uppababy Mesa Infant Car Seat is certified for use in an aircraft when used according to manufacturer’s instructions. Like most travel car seats, the base is not approved for aircraft use. The entire seat is only 17″ wide and the carrier weighs under 10lbs..  It fits babies from 4 to 35 pounds (up to 32″ height), using the included infant insert for the littlest ones.

For car use it includes LATCH connectors, and weighs less than 10lbs. The travel system is compatible with the smart Uppababy Vista pushchair and Uppababy Cruz stroller.

Features

  • Suitable for infants 4–35 lbs and up to 32” in height
  • Carrier weighs under 10 lbs
  • UPF hideaway canopy
  • Attaches directly to VISTA and CRUZ strollers without adapters, and the MINU stroller with the addition of convenient adapters
  • Adjustable headrest with Side Impact Protection
  • NHTSA Link & Overall NHTSA rating ★★★★★

Available to buy on Amazon.


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CARES harness (front) Photo courtesy of Tim Kelley AmSafe CARES
CARES harness CRD
CARES harness (back)

AMsafe CARES harness

The FAA Approved harness is the ONLY approved harness allowed on airlines.


How to Fly With A Car Seat

Is the Car Seat Easy for you to Carry Around & Transport and How to Protect Your Car Seat

Let’s face it, car seats are not the easiest things to lug around, and are rather cumbersome but if you intend to use it on the plane you will need to take it with you, just as you would you cabin luggage.

  • If you are flying solo with your baby, the best option would be to use your stroller travel system and fix the car seat to the stroller frame, as otherwise it could be a long way to walk with your capsule/ car seat.
  • Another option is to use a car seat travel cart or trolley. The often fix to the trolley by using the LATCH or ISOFIX connectors and you can even secure your child in the car seat and transport them through the airport with the cart. They fold up and fit into the planes overhead compartments.
  • If you have no option but to carry it, then look for the lightest but safest car seat.
  • Alternatively, you could look for special car seat travel straps or belts to fix your car seat to your carry on wheelie bag. A car seat travel belt  convert your car seat and carry-on luggage into an airport car seat stroller & carrier.
padded car seat bag with wheels
Padded Car seat bag

How to Protect Your Car Seat

I sometimes get asked, “Do I need a travel bag for my car seat? The answer is you don’t need one, but they are a good idea. Baggage handlers around the world can treat fragile items ( even car seats) very differently, so whilst many safely make it from A to B without incident, there are always stories of people having their strollers or car seats broken. Here are some options to help protect your car seat.

  • If you are checking in your car seat, look for a travel padded bag to protect it. They can be bought brand new from Amazon and other places, but also keep a look out to see if anyone is happy to lend theirs or sell you one second-hand.
  • Alternatively, you can use a large plastic bag that some airports supply or use a cheaper and thinner car seat travel bag and pad it out with nappies/diapers  to protect it a bit further. (This means you will save a little bit of space in your suitcase too!)

Can I use a Booster Seat on an Airplane?

Booster seats are not allowed on any airline as any type of restraint, CRS or CRD, for taxi, take-off, landing or whenever the seatbelt sign is switched on. 

Whilst the FAA does not prohibit using a booster seat or other non-approved devices for a lap child during the cruise portion of the flight only, airlines have policies which may or may not allow the use of those devices.

Always check with your airline first and make it clear that you don’t wish to use it for whenever the seat belt sign is switched on.


How to Install a Car Seat on an Airplane

As a pre-warning, and as an ex long haul flight attendant for twelve years, I never saw one car seat being used on any of my flights If someone had, I had all the details and regulations in my manual to double check the requirements but training did not include physically installing a car seat.

This may have changed now and obviously varies from airline to airline, so I think to manage expectations, don’t expect the crew to be an expert at installing it or to install it for you.

I am aware some airlines make it entirely the passengers responsibility to initially install a car seat and then for the crew member to double check.

DO expect crew to check for the label and DO be aware that just because you could use a rear facing car seat  or use a car seat for an infant under 6 months on one airline or does NOT mean you can automatically use it on another. See above section ‘What are the Airline Car Seat Policies’ for more details.

On that note, plenty of airlines and crew, especially American based airlines see car seats used on a more regular basis and are very helpful. UK flight attendants and others may not be as familiar.

1. Installing a Rear Facing Baby Car Seat on an Airplane

  • You can install an infant car seat in the rear facing position on a plane if that is what the car seat manufacturer recommends for the age/size of your child (AND if the airline allows it.) If your airline is governed by the FAA then your airline DOES allow you to use a rear facing car seat as long as the airplane seat is forward facing, whatever the age of your child. (See above section ‘What are the Airline Car Seat Policies’ for more details and to check the details if you are flying from a non FAA governed airline.)
  • You must make sure the car seat is not blocking anyone from exiting the aisle – this means you should install the car seat  next to the window, or in a centre row section of the plane).
  • Here is a useful video (not by the FAA) on how to install rear facing car seats for airplanes.

2 . Installing a Forward Facing Car Seat on an Airplane

Follow the instructions provided to you in your car seat manual for installation on aircraft. This is often stowed in a small compartment in the back of your car seat. If not, just look for the make and model serial number on the frame and then look it up online.

An ideal seat is the bulkhead seat as you have no passenger seated in front of you and with a car seat, a small child is at an ideal height to kick the seat in front of them.

Choosing a bulkhead seat can stop this from becoming an issue and causing any potential tension with another passenger.

To make installation easier, you may want to recline the seat so that you can more easily feed the seat belt through (returning to an upright position to tighten the belt and be ready for take-off). If you need an extension seat belt, just ask the flight attendant.

Here is a useful video from the FAA on how to install a forward facing car seat on an aircraft.


Can you bring your car seat on the plane?

Should I bring a car seat on the plane?

Legalities

Choosing to bring a car seat (or not) is entirely up to you, and please don’t let yourself be judged by others over the choice you make. Flying is one of the safest modes of transport, but of course accidents and incidents do happen on a rare occasion.

It is not a legal requirement by any airline or country to bring a car seat on the plane for a child, but the FAA do advise it.

The Federal Aviation Administration recommends that a child weighing up to 40 lbs (18 kg) use a certified, approved harnessed child seat while traveling on an aircraft. You must purchase a seat for your child if you decide to use a car seat.*

*If you have not purchased an airplane seat for a baby or toddler (of under two years), an extra seat may still be offered to you free of charge. For your best chance of this, arrive extra early to the airport and make this request upon check in.

Under twos do not require a seat when flying, and are often referred to as lap babies as that it where they sit.

Alternatives to Using a Car Seat On A Plane

Car seats airplane, child restraint devices CARES harness back
CARES harness (front) Photo courtesy of Tim Kelley AmSafe CARES

If you are wondering, “Does a 2 year old need a car seat to fly?” the answer is again, no. They can sit in a normal seat using the provided seat belt, but you can also use your approved car seat or an AmSafe CARES harness s pictured above.

The ground staff will have a much better idea of what seats (if any) are available or if any become available due to no-shows. (No shows are passengers who decide for whatever reason not to show up for their flight.)

To maximise your chances of a spare seat, my top tip is to choose seats online that leave a gap between you. This way the middle seat is likely to be the last one to go as no one likes to choose a single middle seat. 


Do car seats count as a checked bag?

No. Most airlines allow you bring a car seat AND a stroller as additional luggage. Those that don’t, usually offer you one piece of luggage up to 10kg plus a car seat or stroller, so if you pack your child’s clothes with your luggage, then you can take both.

You do not have to pay extra to bring your car seat on the plane as a restraint device, but you do have to pay for the airplane seat to use it!


Flying with a UK, European, Australian, Middle Eastern Based Airline.

Some airlines  e.g UK, European, Australian etc airlines will provide you with an extension belt or lap belt (belly belt) which secures baby to the parents seat belt.  This must be used for taxi, take-off, landing and when turbulent. On USA or Canadian airlines, this is not permitted. 

Additionally, you can purchase a seat for your car seat and use your own car seat or CRD, Child Restraint Device which is approved such as the AMsafe CARES harness or certain medical harnesses for those with additional needs.

(The majority of airlines will allow you to also purchase a seat for your infant (under two only) with no restraint device for that seat, if you hold them on your lap for the above key phases and use the lap belt. A picture of a lap belt is shown below.

child restraint devices airline lap belt, FAA approved car seats
infant lap belt

Flying with a USA or Canadian Based Airline

If you are flying on a USA or Canadian based airline, the options are either to fly with your infant on your lap with no lap belt or purchase a seat and use your approved child restraint system (CRS) such as a certified car seat or AMsafe CARES harness (CARES can only be used if baby is over one) for key flight phases such as taxi, take-off, landing etc.

Infant Lap belts are NOT permitted on USA or Canadian airlines.

(The majority of airlines will allow you to also purchase a seat for your infant (under two only) with no restraint device for that seat, if you hold them on your lap for the above key phases of flight. 

An AMsafe CARES harness can only be used for babies over the age of one, up to the age of 4 /weighing 22 to 44 pounds and up to 40 inch tall, whereas an airline approved car seat can be used by any aged child or baby that fits into it and meets the weight restrictions for that model of car seat.

Cost

If you are flying internationally with an infant under two, the airfare is noticeably a lot cheaper and often 10% of an adults fare plus any relevant taxes. If you purchase a seat for an infant or child, then you will need to pay a child fare which averages between 66%- 80% of an adult fare.

Since parents are not required to purchase a separate infant airplane seat or toddler airplane seat for a child under 2 years of age, many people choose to have their baby on their lap throughout a flight because it is free for domestic USA based flights and discounted with other airlines.

Car seats airplane, child restraint devices CARES harness back
CARES harness (front)
Photo courtesy of Tim Kelley

3. Installing the AMsafe CARES harness on an Airplane

An AMsafe CARES harness can only be used for children meeting the weight requirements of between 22 and 44 pounds. (This is usually around 1-4 years old and it is the only airline approved CRS which is not a car seat. Be aware it may not fit some premium cabin seats and can only be used on forward facing seats.

It is light and compact so a good alternative to a bulkier car seat or for using with airlines that don’t allow the use of a car seat past the age of two.

Here is a useful installation video from Fly Safe, the makers of the CARES harness.

Other options

If you have a car seat that doesn’t slot into a stroller or you don’t want to use a belt  (the cheapest option), you can also buy a car seat transporter.

However, these are sometimes more expensive than the car seat, so unless you are intending on doing a lot of flying, these just won’t be worth the extra cost. Below are some other alternatives.

1. The BabyTrend Snap’n’Go is a wheeled stroller frame which you can attach certain car seats too. Some compatible car seats include Chicco Key Fit 3,  Combi Shuttle 33, Cosco, Evenflo Embrace, Graco Snugride 22 and 35, & Safe Seat 32, Maxi-Cosi Mico, Peg Perego Primo Viaggio 30, Safety 1st on Board 35 and others. 

Britax also has their own line of travel accessories, including a padded car seat travel bag, and a travel cart. You can find more travel accessories for you or family here.

2. Car Seat Travel Belt

A car seat travel belt, simply connects your car seat to your hand luggage, so you can easily  wheel it around.

This particular style is not meant for use with a child inside, but could be an option if you are using your travel stroller or baby carrier to carry your child around the airport. Check Car Seat Strap Prices here

The VolkGo car seat travel strap, can be used with a child inside the car seat. 

Best Car Seat Travel Bag Options

If you are looking for a protective car seat bag for airplane travel, here are are some suggestions. The best travel bags for car seats are padded but they are more expensive than the others.

It’s worth checking if any are available second hand but they can be found at a reasonable price on Amazon too.  

You can use your car seat gate check bag at the main check in, or use it at the boarding gate if you don’t intend to use the car seat for your flight. It is also ideal to put the base in, if there is no room to stow it on the plane. 

1. J.L Childress Padded Car Seat Bag and Backpack

The  Childress Ultimate Backpack Padded Car Seat Travel Bag  is one of the most popular ones on the market and is well designed. The backpack style allows you easily carry it around. It fits most car seats and is fully padded for protection. For more information and latest prices, see here.

2. VolkGo Car Seat Travel Bag

The VolkGo is not padded ( so it is cheaper) but is made of a durable nylon. It has padded straps and folds up very compactly if it is not needed.

If you need to carry a car seat through the airport, this could be the option for you. Size wise the dimensions are 34 x 18 x 18 inch, which fits most major brands. For more information and latest prices, see here.

FAQ’s

  • Do I take the base of the car seat too or just the car seat?

Usually it is just the airline approved car seat (not base) which is approved for you on an airplane.

However, always check your instruction manual before you fly. Consider if you prefer to put the base in the aircraft hold  (as it is heavy) or store it in the overhead locker.

  • Is it a requirement for carseats to be in a window seat only?

A car seat cannot block or impede an exit, so normally the best place is a window seat. However, it can also be used in a centre row seat.

  • My car seat is FAA approved but wider than the airline suggesting 16″. Can I still use it?

On certain airlines yes. USA/Canadian airlines need to find you a seat that is suitable as per the FAA rules. However, other airlines may not be able to accommodate you.

Always check the airline website first and have a copy of your manufacturers instructions to hand when discussing with an airline representative.

Be aware, that customer service reps may not be knowledgeable of the answer as they do not work on the plane, or see the flight manual saying what is and isn’t permitted. So if you are unsure, ask to speak to a manager and explain your concerns.

  • My car seat doesn’t fit, despite meeting all the airline regulations, what can I do?

Some airlines provide a child restraint device of their own, for circumstances, such as these, but you do need to request this usually 48 hours before your flight so it can be loaded onboard the plane.

I’ve have written more about this and what airline provide this in my child restraint device summary post .

If this is not an option you many have to consider other options such as the CARES harness if your baby is over 1 year old.

  • I am traveling with two under two by myself. What are my options?

You can use two travel car seats on the airplane, or you can have one child in a car seat and the other as a lap baby.

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This 2024 guide will help you sift through the rules, provide you with a range of airline FAA approved car seats & answer many of your questions regarding traveling with carseats.

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Amber

Tuesday 28th of June 2022

Lap belts are not permitted on any US carrier.

Carrie Bradley

Thursday 30th of June 2022

That's correct.

Liliana Ruano

Friday 10th of September 2021

Hi, I am traveling with my son, he will be about 9.5 when we travel. He now weights 24-25 lbs. I am interested in the CARES harness, but you say that it is to be used for 1 year old or older. At the FAA.gov site, https://www.faa.gov/travelers/fly_children/#cares, age is not specified, only weight range. I want to give this a try, but I fear that even though this is allowed on the airline I'll fly, United, they might not want to allow it since my son is not a year old.

I will be traveling on my own from Raleigh, NC to Tucson, AZ, and connecting in Houston.

Carrie Bradley

Friday 10th of September 2021

Hi Liliana, the one year old requirement is a rough guide as most one year old will meet that weight requirement, but if they do earlier, then its no problem! The airline will always go by the FAA rules. I will make that clearer in the post! Thanks

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